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FBI to determine if Meredith statue’s defiling is hate crime | The Clarion-Ledger | clarionledger.com

 

FBI to determine if Meredith statue’s defiling is hate crime | The Clarion-Ledger | clarionledger.com

The conversation:

 

Statement:

Stanley Beech · Top Commenter · Blackjack Dealer at Pearl River Resort

First of all, what did the man accomplish in order for a statue to be made in his honor? I don’t recall him becoming famous for anything.Actually it was one of Bobby Kennedy’s pet projects that resulted in two people being killed..If someone is deserving of a statue so be it, but not James Meredith.It’s just something else for The NAACP to use.against the State.They don’t want the white Folks and Black folks to get along, they wouldn’t be in business if they did.

Response:

Lillian Stevens Young · Top Commenter · Tuscaloosa, Alabama

Stanley, maybe the statue is there b/c Meredith had COURAGE, the greatest of all attributes, IMO. And famous? In the struggle for civil rights, he certainly is famous. And you can argue whether the statue should be there not; that’s your right. But, the placing of a noose and a flag on the statue sends a message loud and clear, and it’s not one that I want my native state to send. I agree that many (most?) of our current so called civil rights leaders want the race tensions to continue; otherwise, they’d be out of work. However, in this case, we don’t need their involvement to tell us what this means

Reply:

Stanley Beech · Top Commenter · Blackjack Dealer at Pearl River Resort

Lillian Stevens Young Why was the Georgia flag used?It sounds to me like someone did this just to set race relations back..Someone defaced a statue and there is a 25.000 dollar reward and five football players literally stomp a guys head in at a party and that is not considered a hate crime.This is really nothing to do with Meredith, it’s just something for the NAACP to use against the State of Mississippi, I doubt half of the leaders would even know who James Meredith is.Rest assured Al Sharpton will be down to get his recognition.

Response:

Lillian Stevens Young · Top Commenter · Tuscaloosa, Alabama

Stanley Beech <you think someone wants to set race relations back? I think you’re right — the idiots who put the noose and the flag there!! And, do I think those responsible should have been prosecuted for beating this student? Absolutely!!! But, in my opinion, the lack of prosecution by the authorities in Oxford has a lot more to do with the fact that the perpetrators are Ole Miss football players, and nothing to do with race

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I’m just saying

We live in a country where entertainment reigns supreme and football is arguably supreme in entertainment, especially in Mississippi. When you look at the discrepancy in the application, the enforcement of drug laws in this country, nationally, you can best believe that to the extent that leniency is shown to these young men who are part of a revenue generating apparatus that race has nothing to do with it. To suggest otherwise is to provide cover for the Stormfront crowd. As for putting Civil Rights leaders out of work, as long as there are George Zimmermans and Michael Dunns running around and as long as you have people who can’t see the connection between the flag that was draped on the Meredith statue and the noose to the Mississippi state flag

and how conducive it is to memorialization of supremacist images and acts white supremacists can appreciate and moderates take the opportunity to join with them in criticism of the NAACP or seize the opportunity to fly the “civil-rights-leaders-want-the-race tensions-to-continue banner” then there will be work for Civil Rights leaders.

In the 60’s Martin Luther King Jr. said

“We have waited for more than 340 years for our constitutional and God given rights” 

Variations of confederate battle flags were the rallying symbols of resistance to this goal.  The white-southerner’s response in Mississippi to full black participation in public life was redemption and the adoption of a flag created by supremacists memorializing the effort to do as they please regarding the ownership of human beings.  In Mississippi that selection was affirmed by an overwhelming white-majority years after MLK’s assassination.  And the mental and emotional support that Mississippi’s state flag lends to the Meredith statue desecration, the recognition of legacy on the part of the offenders is something that perhaps you could criticize the current Civil Rights leaders for not noting.  But don’t expect it from moderates who are never really ready for trouble-makers who abhor supremacist symbols.  No, they, the moderates are more likely to defend such tax-supported symbols of states as respect of tradition.  They must then also recognize the psychic support such symbols extend and the predictable consequences of cherishing such a legacy. 

Why the outrage over a statue

The headline read “

FBI to determine if Meredith statue’s defiling is hate crime

 

And you quickly come to realize what Mississippi is and why it is the way it is.  From someone at one of Mississippi’s Seg academies came the following comment:

“ How convenient we forget that Meredith is responsible for the deaths of two innocent victims. He only attended ole miss for one year. He was a paid mule by the naacp.. He himself dislikes the statue and would like to see it removed.” –  · Rusty Reeves · Brandon Academy

Here the commenter’s view is that the man the statue honors was a trouble-maker.  The outrage over the statue’s desecration (the statue’s outrageous treatment, it’s disrespectful treatment) is not understandable to segregationists.  The outrage is not justified, it is not even comprehensible to those who love segregation and things like the supremacist-created Mississippi state flag, (apparently akin the old Georgia (Confederacy-memorializing) state flag which was draped with a noose on the statue) because many white Mississippians have never believed in integration.  And Meredith is a symbol of that which they abhor and find repulsive.  Meredith’s significance is so little appreciated among the majority of Mississippians that you are likely to have agreement with this statement from another of the commenters on the story:

“it sounds like littering laws were the only ones violated.” –  · Noel Funchess  Mississippi State University

The chilling effect such an action as the statue desecration can have on minorities is not unlike a cross burning, as anyone could see the implications of a noose and a confederate symbol draped on a black man’s statue.  Oddly, you would think that Mississippians, black and white, would be particularly sensitive to such an outrage as would all southerners.  You would think that the actions where as alarming to people who know Mississippi’s history as someone yelling fire in a crowded theater, there is a bit of terror evoked.  The people at Ole Miss know this which is why they have made moves avoid prompts to yell “the South will rise again” at football games.  What south is it that people want to see rise again.  And when people pretend not to know the significance of offensive gestures and threatening racial symbols then you know what its like to be in Mississippi. 

 

And for those who say like another of the commenters that

“Yep, you read it correctly – a hate crime against a statue. The word you used – “ridiculous” – isn’t strong enough to describe the absurdity of this. The act of vandalism itself was stupid and the vandals should be punished, but the degree to which it already has been overblown is crazy. I’m running out of adjectives. We haven’t begun to see or hear the end of this.” –  Mike Jones  The University of Alabama

I know clarity isn’t something in which they’re interested. 

And people who don’t see the outrage in the statue desecration probably wouldn’t that think burning a cross would be a hate crime or leaving a swastika on a synagogue door.

However,

“A hate crime is a traditional offense like murder, arson, or vandalism with an added element of bias. For the purposes of collecting statistics, Congress has defined a hate crime as a “criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.”

Now I guess that’s just another reason for some people to hate government and regulation.  It’s funny how some people count the freedom to intimidate others as one of their cherished freedoms.  And you can understand why when you realize that with that freedom they can chase people from the field of play, out of whole areas of activity, and enhance and ensure unchallenged domination.  This is the connection between segregation and supremacy.